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Been saying it for ages, conservatives, especially old men, get off on the idea that a woman can be impregnated at any time, and has no control over it. It explains their opposition to contraception, abortion rights and also accounts for the attitudes towards rape as not being a big deal. It's all designed to keep women weak and helpless and totally subject to the whim of men. Nothing to do with liberty and freedom (wrong to regulate corporates, but regulating women is fine, yes?), or religion (I guess the Bible (written in tens of centuries ago) frowns on the pill (invented in the 1960's) right?, and no concern for foetuses, since Republicans don't give a flying fuck about them once they are born, unless they will inherit large fortunes from their parents.
"They think it's bogus too"
No, Louis, that is as wrong as anyone can get. They KNOW it's bogus, they're just saying that to appeal to their base, donors, and general bullshit regarding religion. The moment news of S.B. 5 started spreading, I voice my stance on it (in opposition) to the representative of my district, Angie Chen Button.
Well homosexuality is a sin although I feel that it may just be gay marriage that is a sin not just being gay but thats debatable. And the liberals would blow their tops if we tried to legislate against divorce or premarital sex. So really the liberals only have themselves to blame.
'Yes, she did commit perjury by her own admittance and when investigated independently, it was verified she committed perjury' - You know what? I don't believe you. I can find not even a whisper of what you've said.
Anyway, the majority of American's think abortion is fine, so even in the off chance she did lie, repealing the law is pointless.
Oh, she 'admitted to lying' did she? Well, funnily enough, I have the greatest database in the known universe at my fingertips. Guess what? She didn't lie. Or at least, the idea that she lied hasn't even been reported, never mind her admitting that she did.
Secondly, I don't care about legal theory (in this context anyway), what you are suggesting is both impractical and pointless.
If abortion was criminalised, it would be de-criminalised immediately.
Don't be ridiculous. Even if she did lie (which there is no evidence of her lying) the case showed how obvious the problem was going to become. People were already considering legalising it anyway, and not enough people are against it for it to be banned.
How exactly can you legislate against that? Make divorce illegal? Make premarital sex illegal for christians only? I dont see how that would work in congress. In the catholic church you cannot remarry or receive the sacraments if you have gotten a divorce but people do it anyway.
In conjunction with restricting abortion services, Texas has one of the highest rates of child poverty. So, while these Republican Texans claim concern for women and the unborn, they show they could care less for children who are born and can't get enough to eat.
It's not just America, Ireland and Northern Ireland (part of the U.K.) have obscene religion based abortion laws. Women are forced to go to term with infants that will not survive. Abnormal foetus' have been ruled NOT a legitimate reason for termination.
Keep in mind that these laws have not been updated for 150 years and the Religious right have fought tooth and nail to prevent new legislation.
Kids who are from single family homes are MANY MANY more times likely to join the military as a "career" option. So, if the GOP can craft anti-abortion laws, it will result in more births, thus more future soldiers.
This is the REAL reason the GOP is against abortion.
"How the hell can this happen. How do these religious nuts get power to influence laws like this. Whats wrong with America."A bribe here a little bribe there,money talks.How do you think all major oil companies more or less get away with faulty tankers and oil spills.Religion no different the highest bidder wins.
Their laws weren't as "extreme" as those in North Dakota, where after 6 weeks all abortions were illegal. And they have only one abortion clinic. I think that's more worthy of being called extreme, don't you?
Thank you for that. Maternal death is 14 times higher than induced abortion (though "pro-lifers" will outright lie about that). Pregnancy does carry risk and complications that someone should be not forced to accept.
Why would abortion be right in the case of a rape and wrong in the case of consensual sex? Is the fetus still not a fetus in both a rape and consensual sex? The way I can see someone saying that is you are looking at the resulted pregnancy as a punishment for the crime of having sex.
A women should not have to be forced to be a vessel for an embryo/fetus that she does not want. An embryo cannot live on its own, it needs a body to grow. You are putting the embryo/fetus (no self-awareness or pain yet) over the desire of the carrier. My pro-choice position has been strengthen since being pregnant. Pregnancy can be awful and I do not think someone should be forced to be pregnant if they do not want to.
Why? This isn't a theocracy if you want that then maybe live in Saudi Arabia.
I think a child would fair much better with divorce parents who co-parent separately than living with married parents that argue constantly. Violence, adultery and abuse should not be the only reason why a couple should divorce.
Goose poop, thats funny, I find comfort in that. Religious people dont seem to mind messing with 'gods will' when they need invitro-fertilization, but if the doctor tells them there are too many and need to destroy a few embrios to increase the survival or it could endanger the mother, then they have a problem with it again. Catholics can annul a marriage if the wife cant get pregnant, though it could be low sperm count, his religion exempts him from testing cause to put it in a cup offends god.
I think in the far future, patches of intelligence will form in the United States, filled with people using common sense, logic and overall rational behavior (with mostly empathetic secular/agnostic/deist views) .
While that happens, patches of deluded, stubborn and scientifically illiterate yokels will clutch their mental crutch, and others will have to tip toe around them like goose shit in Autumn.
(You ever walk through a soccer field in Fall? Shit's everywhere, at least in Canada).
You really need to explain your argument further. Here is my explanation for why women should not be restricted from being able to have abortion
1 If they decide that they want to have an abortion, and there are restrictions like the ones in Texas and probably other conservative states, they would resort to unsafe methods in order to get abortions. I would feel great if someone can help me with this argument
This is just irritating, women in Texas should be able to have access abortions and be able to feel safe doing so. Fuck your morals, religion, whatever gets in the way of supporting women's reproductive rights
How the hell can this happen. How do these religious nuts get power to influence laws like this. Whats wrong with America. Get your act together. The world is watching in horror. What next...arranged marriage, chastity belts, stoning women in the street. I am never going to texas or any red state, reflublicans scare the crap out of me...we should all be affraid. Rise up people... Use your voices and take back your country before its too late.
Who the fuck are you to say it should be enforced by law on what a woman can are can't do with her own body get over yourself loser. You the politicians like you and Texas are nothing but backward obstructing walls holding American civilization back do us all a favor and disappear back into the dark ages where you belong.
Why are politicians even involved in this issue? abortion is between doctors, patients and families. Governments shouldn't run their countries, states, or cities based on their politician's personal beliefs, forcing your personal beliefs and morality onto other people and not giving them a choice is being a dictator.
Exactly to be realistic there is not fighting against gay marriage or abortion its not winnable this day in age and thats what pope franics will tell you very soon. A lie that will destroy millions of people will come from the catholic church. Everyone that has left the church in the past will all flock back once that happens know that no matter how real and logical it seems it is a lie
If it makes you feel any better I dont vote anymore as I already know there is no defeating liberalism. You'll get all youre wishes gay marriage, abortions up until the day of birth, and of course you'll all be part of the united global church. Believe it or not the vatican is preparing for the biggest lie to ever be thrown at humanity. So big that gay marriage will be allowed in the catholic church.
Well if a woman wants to get her baby ripped out of her with a coat hanger or have it done professionally then she deserves to die and I could care less. I'm done trying to appease the unappeasable its just how it is.
I wish anti choice morons would focus on things that reduced the amount of abortions being necessary (birth control, increased minimum wage, that sort of thing) rather than making abortions unsafe for the female and causing more death.
They know it isn't safer. They know that women will get back alley abortions instead of clinic abortions. Even saying that they don't care is being too kind. They actively want women to die if they have an abortion, because they consider it "murder." And they want for women (those they don't know personally, anyway) to suffer punishment for their "immoral" sexual urges. Banning abortions has become a proxy war agt. the sexual revolution & womens lib movements, not abt. the "sanctity of life."
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